YOUR COMMENTS
"Dear Mr. Stephens,
I agree with you on the standpoint of women pastors. It is becoming more and more of them popping up across the nation and world now. There aren’t many real men who are willing to stand up and speak out against this. I personally feel the devil is calling these women and they have taken it to be God. Also with all of these women movements that have come about, I see how so many weak men are susceptible to this behavior of allowing women to take over. Even though it is nowhere in God's word people still accept this false doctrine."
~ James Hill, From: Reno, Nevada
"Brother I want to thank you for standing for truth. In a society where being politically correct is more important than being biblically correct, your voice is appreciated. I was a part of the Word of Faith movement for many years and thankfully God intervened and delivered me." ~ Walter Brertton, From: Alberta, Canada
"May God bless your efforts in trying to help believers discern the truth! There are a lot of false teachers out there leading many down a dark path." ~ Pastor Roscoe, From: Streamwood, Illinois
"Thanks for all the time and heartache you have expressed here... this is the best info I have found... you go get um. We're behind you."
~ Unknown
"Well written description of this dangerous movement. I wish I had a printed version to highlight and use for bible study with my family. We had a deep discussion about this topic last week at work. There are many Christian who are well aware of these false teachings. We need more to stand up and speak out. I never see any one on TV challenge this movement. One prominent Pastor who first brought this to my knowledge was John Cherry. He has also been vocal opponent concerning these teachings. Thanks again." ~ Anthony Daniel, From: Prattville, Alabama
"I was looking for a Biblical rebuttal of the Word of Faith heresy, and came across your website. I would like to thank you for taking the time to write such an in-depth article! Thank you for exposing their rotten fruit, and providing so much Scripture to rebuke their lies. Your article against the Word of Faith movement was both incredibly educating and edifying. I thought you'd like to know that you've definitely helped me as a believer, so I wanted to encourage you... especially since I am sure you got a lot of flak for exposing WoF with all that disinfecting sunlight! I read your testimony, and Praise the Lord for removing you from the grasp of the "ministry" of Creflo Dollar. The Lord has done a marvelous work in you and through you!"
~ Carolyn Bivans, From: Middleport, New York
"Brother, I just wanted to tell you how thankful I am for your commitment to cataloging so much information. It will be an immeasurable help for a new-comer to the Name/Claim mock-trines of today. I have been pouring over this website for two days, just soaking up the information. Thank you, also, for using God's Word so prolifically throughout. There is nothing that cleanses the soul so powerfully as God's Word (John 15:3)." ~ Todd Sadler, From: Akron, Ohio
"I sent your article on women pastors to a friend of mine. We both came out of a 'Word of faith' church; and boy did we see nonsense. We thank God on a daily basis for people like you." ~ Bev Markgraaff, From: South Africa
"Thanks for the info found herein. It's disheartening and encouraging at the same time. Keep up the good work. I am grateful that there are those like yourself who're willing to do a lot of the work and keep us other sheep better informed. Again, thank you."
~ Mark Harrington, From: Taiwan
"I just wanted to express my thanks for your article "The Word-Faith Movement: Wolves in Sheep's Clothing." Pardon me for rambling, but I thought I'd explain why I was so thankful, if you choose to take time to read it (postscript, below). I'm sure you get many emails. This article couldn't have come at a better time in my life. Thank you for your dispassionate, but critical look at the movement. Coming from the background I have, I have a hard time discerning if watchmen who bash teachers of aberrant teaching are really trying to help the flock or are trying to guard people against errant teaching. I'm glad your article doesn't seethe of bitterness but seems to be written in love. I hope that's the case in actuality, as well. Because your article was written so logically, thoroughly, and calmly, I was able to take a step back and look at these teachings with a critical eye. Because of the Scripture references you gave which contradicted those beliefs, I now find a lot of freedom in the fact that I disagreed with them. Thank you."
~ Netanya Martin
"Thanks for an excellent paper of the WOF movement. It is obvious that you spent a lot of time on it. I have placed your link on our church web page for our people to study. I have been preaching through 1 Peter and it is absolutely in contrast to the WOF message. Our people are hungry for Christian content and turn to TBN because there are few other options. Most of them knew something was not right but are glad to know the theology and history behind the message. Please keep up the good work and I will look forward to reading more from your page."
~ Tim Stutler, Pastor, Glasgow Cumberland Presbyterian Church, From: Glasgow, Kentucky
"God the Father is Word of Faith, Jesus Christ is Word of Faith and the Holy Spirit is Word of Faith so what's your problem? If you dig deep enough a fool is a moron - so how deep do you want to go? Try to tell God He isn't Word of Faith and he'll laugh at you or cry if He is your Father." ~ Ronald E. Bostrom, From: British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada
TDM: As proven in my article, the nature and character of God has been perverted by Word-Faith teachers. Furthermore, their theology on faith, their atonement theology, and health and wealth doctrine is a far cry from what the Bible actually teaches. And that is the problem... which is primarily an issue for which you and many other false teachers will ultimately be held accountable. I take it that it is much more convenient to engage in name calling rather than submit scriptural facts to support your position.
"I have read your article attacking the so called "Word-Faith" movement. I listen to the preachers you have mentioned on the website, and have been following some of their advice trying to get my salvation in order. And I can say it is getting back on track. I have tried getting my emotions in balance, improved my Bible reading and prayer life, and I'm a bit more confident about my faith. Then I read the Victor Stephens article. And, honestly, it has disturbed and confused me. Some of the things mentioned made a lot of sense, and maybe I had not questioned them as thoroughly as I should have. But I have a few questions; please don't think I am trying to attack you, or protect them. Once again, God's will is ultimate. We do not know who he has chosen for some blessings and others for some. And I do believe some of these preachers who keep calling for seed offerings, or using scripture to justify giving money, are wrong. What does this mean for us who are working hard, trying to get prosperous? I have been using Deuteronomy 28, and some verses in Proverbs to motivate myself with the knowledge that I will be wealthy and prosperous if I work hard, and keep in the Lord's will for my life. I was also using the blessings God gave Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and especially Joshua. Is this wrong, to try and get out of poverty? I've been praying for the Lord's will to be revealed in my life, and I know he will do it. I know he will show me the truth. Right now, all I can do is pray and ask Christ to guide me. Thank you very much."
~ Samson
"Praise The Lord that there are still THINKING Christians around!! Keep on warning The Body of Christ about these HERETICS!!"
~ Pastor Charles Simmons, From: Indianapolis, Indiana
"This article really makes me wander. I will continue to tithe, however, to those who truly need it. I believe God wants us to take care of each other but not greedy ministers. Thank you for the article." ~ Renita, From: Detroit, Michigan
"I was searching for some "evidence" to present to a loved one with regards to a particular preacher they know/listen to who believes & teaches that blasphemous little gods garbage. A Google search led me to this website. But before jumping to use the info found on this site to support my argument in (this very cordial) discussion, I made sure to browse thru some more of the site.... All I can say is "GLORY TO GOD"!!! It is an absolute pleasure whenever I come across one of the remnant whom YHVH has chosen out of this world, a brother/sister in Christ that loves the truth & seeks to please GOD before men [Gal. 1:10*] just as I strive to do until His Return (or my death, whichever comes first). May the Lord Bless & Keep you... [Numbers 6:24]."
~ Eric Bradley, From: Orlando, Florida
"My wife and I were about ready to join a Word of Faith church after 2 years of attendance. During the membership class some comments were made about a Word of Faith minister talking to Jesus face to face. A check went off thanks to the Holy Spirit. God is good! I have since been reading everything I can on the Word of Faith and the false teachers. Unbelievable. Thanks for your site. It is really an eye opener on the false teachings WoF. We won't be going back and I am praying for the pastor's eyes to be opened to the truth." ~ Scott, From: Montana
"I read every word that you have written concerning women in pastor positions as leaders of the church. I agree with you totally. You have blessed my soul to find one man that would stand up for biblical truths without compromise. I know this is a lonely road to travel but we must stick with unadulterated Word. Thank You, I will see you in heaven if not on this earth before. I love you and appreciate you. Thanks again!" ~ Pastor Jerry Lindsey, From: Jackson, Mississippi
"This is a "testimony" not a "teaching" :) Thank you for your teaching on women pastors, as a woman I totally agree with scripture - Enough! No women pastors please!
You made mention of the Talmud in your teaching, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the Talmud the written oral tradition of the Jews (men) that Jesus opposed, and not the Torah/Tanak of God, actual scripture? If so, then I do believe that the Talmud contains prejudicial teachings toward women learning scripture. However, God must have wanted women to learn scripture in ancient times, because as their children's first teachers, women were with their children all day while their husbands were at work. I believe that is why it was so important to God that the Israeli men not marry pagan women, because they would teach their children their pagan ways.
Whenever Moses addressed the Children of Israel as an assembly or congregation to give the words of God (or scripture) it definitely included women and children as well as the men. While reading through the Old Testament, I also found there were no women in the priestly roles, God spoke of the priests as the "sons" of Aaron, He did not include Aaron's "daughters" in the priesthood - all priests were Levites but not all Levites were priests.
As a "modern" married woman being pelted with the doctrine of feminism, I have struggled and continue to do so concerning the "submission" issue - the Bible reveals that this is just the flesh or the sin nature rearing its ugly head. For the most part I have never totally bought into women's liberation, but regardless that inclination is there, so I am learning to do as the Lord commands and crucify my flesh to His cross daily and when I do I find my life to be much more happy and fulfilling.
Unfortunately, I have learned through experience that when I give in to my flesh and resort to feminine wiles and manipulation to gain authority over my husband it ends in disaster, but he is so gracious and forgiving when I repent to him. Too many women out there, this may make me sound weak and a sell out to male chauvinism, and to that I say, "Woman, that is your opinion which means very little to me. Do you really want to be married to a "weinne girly man" who submits to your emotional whims? Not me!
I have simply chosen to submit to God's divine order, it is not always easy, and yes my husband makes mistakes but because I have chosen the Lord's way - submission to my husband, our Father makes it turn for the good, because we love Him and are called according to His purpose, and we are reaping the benefits of obedience - a happy, Godly home :)
So, it is my hope that more Godly men and women stand up to the pressures of a feminist driven society and firmly just say - 'NO'."
~ Heather, From: Whittier, California
"I am so excited about your website and am so glad you are on the internet. I got in a heated argument on Facebook about a pastor who is under investigation for hypocrisy. I've tried over and over to tell people not to judge, not to worship man but God and they don't listen. I even saw where a so-called Christian called out certain people in her family -- calling them lost souls and posting their pictures on Facebook -- how judgmental and arrogant. I thank you for posting the truth and can only pray that people will heed. I am amazed by the stupidity of people and this New Age Religion as I call it. People do not face reality; they do not call things as they are and worst don't read/understand the bible, but break it down as they see fit. I rarely go to church, as I am so disgusted w/the false preachers/teachers out there. This prosperity teaching is horrendous!!! I even used my grandmother as an example of true faith -- she had no desire for "worldly" things, did not live wealthy, but was very satisfied and trusted/believed in God. This is overlooked and the $$$ is what is sought. Preachers are forgiven for using/abusing people. I just Thank God for you."
~ P. Joan Henry, From: New York
"Great website. God bless you brother." ~ Philip McCormack, From: New Zealand
"There can now be no doubt about it - deception is definitely on the increase within the church of the western world. This is now manifesting blatantly within the “New Mystics” Christian movement - but what does this reveal about some of the previous movements that they have built upon? As the bible has already warned us surely we should be aware and on our guard against such things."
~ Steve Dobbs
"I didn't read the entire article, but I agree with what the introduction and some of the conclusion was talking about. That's why I believe in the Lord's Church, the Church of Christ! I hope you're in it?"
~ Michael Johnson